tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post8892325719171707344..comments2023-09-26T02:04:45.639-07:00Comments on THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE: Conservatives Still Deny Global WarmingUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-69030939964681331772011-03-09T23:58:03.383-08:002011-03-09T23:58:03.383-08:00'Anonymous said...
I'll admit to "cli...'Anonymous said...<br />I'll admit to "climate change" because thats what it does, EVERYDAY, and thats what it HAS been doing since the beginning of time!'<br />Not true! The weather is what changes everyday! The climate is the long term weather patterns. A single day makes almost no difference to the climate.Climategirlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-49555147901392811252010-11-29T02:07:44.223-08:002010-11-29T02:07:44.223-08:00Even if there is no such thing as global warming w...Even if there is no such thing as global warming would it be worth taking the risk? So you'll have to make a few changes in your lifestyle such as drive less, bring your own shopping bag to the store, buy organic food etc... As anonymous pointed out, lots of animals are suffering because of our inconsiderate lifestyle. Are you for instance aware of the damage caused by plastic bag consumption?<br />Great blog!Marihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13910390058373888309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-27938902946926422332010-11-23T18:28:24.475-08:002010-11-23T18:28:24.475-08:00It is shameful how some individuals still argue ag...It is shameful how some individuals still argue against proven facts. You don’t have to do much research about global warming to discover that there is something I like to call a “system”. This system is fundamentally a group of people who benefit in some way; to write denying, rubbish comments on the internet. Their arguments are however comical, as they have all been proven to be incorrect by today’s science. <br /><br />David I very much appreciate seeing people trying to make a difference. It is just truly unbelievable how corrupted human beings are. I just started reading your blog and I intend to continue to do so. <br /><br />Don’t stop posting on global warming!Pepenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-21922781198149823492010-09-21T09:28:52.783-07:002010-09-21T09:28:52.783-07:00and the scientist still denied the global warming....and the scientist still denied the global warming.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-19653577203022990692010-06-08T09:00:59.066-07:002010-06-08T09:00:59.066-07:00Both sides say what you want, but the most importa...Both sides say what you want, but the most important thing is to take your head out of a book and LOOK OUTSIDE- BECOME AWARE- essentially, wake up. <br /><br />What we have been doing to our planet, the effects being grander in the last 30 years, is ridiculous and irrefutable. We are definitely hurting our planet. <br />In fact, because of us (yes you, me, humans) there has been <br />1- Habitat loss<br />2- Invasive species<br />3 -Pollution<br />4- Population growth<br />5- Over-consumption (unsustainable use of resources)<br />6- Climate Change (AKA melting ice that will have a devastating affect on migratory birds- if and when level rises and floods coastal plains, this will wipe them out- and polar bears, all that call the Tundra home, Adelie penguins (and this is just to name a few)<br /><br />Look at Biodiversity. There's damage. Try denying the fact that we are to blame is ignorant and foolish. Because that is essentially what all the "non-believers" of global warming are doing: trying to find a loop hole in their books instead of actually raising there heads and taking the blame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-57196372303228118772010-04-05T19:37:07.706-07:002010-04-05T19:37:07.706-07:00Temp swings are a natural event :
"The d18O r...Temp swings are a natural event :<br />"The d18O records confirm that large and rapid temperature oscillations have occurred through most of the last 110,000 year period. They are of a scale that has not been experienced during the past 10,000 years in which human society mainly developed." Greenland Ice Core Project - Final ReportChashttp://marketing109.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-74201417846547784952010-04-05T14:39:49.144-07:002010-04-05T14:39:49.144-07:00If one is not interested in debating the science, ...If one is not interested in debating the science, then it doesn't seem likely that any minds will be enlightened or changed. And if that isn't likely, then we are all just preaching to the choir, an exercise in futility.<br /><br />I for one, feel that the science supporting a significant contribution to global warming from human activity is quite compelling, but that doesn't mean that the opposing side is not raising some interesting points.<br /><br />So much of the discussion in general, and the comments on this blog, completely miss the entire point of having this discussion. The critical point is this: <br /><br />It is valuable for us to understand if our actions are adversely affecting the climate, not so much to protect the polar bears or the coral reefs, tho we have a moral obligation to do so, but to protect our children and our culture that we value so much. If we indeed are causing a global environmental catastrophe of the magnitude suggested, it is highly likely that this will have a devastating effect on our evolving culture and our future generations. We may well even cause our own species to go extinct. <br /><br />I would hope that tree huggers and conservatives alike can agree that making efforts, even painful ones, to avoid the devastation of our culture, or even the elimination of our kind altogether is worth doing.<br /><br />Thus, it is critical that we debate the science if that is what is needed to improve the consensus for action. Just saying all the scientists agree does not guarantee any action will occur, but when average people understand the true risks, and contact the politicians to demand change in big enough numbers, believe me, they will take action.<br /><br />PhilAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-37296867907726812612010-02-04T12:44:58.151-08:002010-02-04T12:44:58.151-08:00@Borepatch:
I think Harriet said it quite eloquent...@Borepatch:<br />I think Harriet said it quite eloquently...<br /><br />The question raised in my article is why do some people cling to their arguments in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. The responses of the right-wing(I don't know why they, but most of them are right-wingers) only proves that the basis for my question is reasonable.David Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12849200494760141604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-51717821694537586692010-01-27T15:49:36.528-08:002010-01-27T15:49:36.528-08:00David, I'm very late to the discussion here, v...David, I'm very late to the discussion here, via a comment you left at Newsbusters.<br /><br />I'm quite intrigued at your comment <i>I will not debate the science. </i> Why? There's nothing magical about Science - as long as the data and methods are provided (and they often are not, particularly in Climate Science), there's nothing here that an intelligent person can't understand.<br /><br />I've laid out some reasons to be skeptical about the science here:<br /><br />http://borepatch.blogspot.com/2009/12/should-you-be-global-warming-skeptic.html<br /><br />Specifically, (a) the raw data in the temperature data sets does not agree with the processed (homogenized) data, (b) the proxy temperature data sets are poorly joined to the temperature record and have been diverging from them for the last fifty years, (c) the historical record about the Medieval Warm Period and Little Ice Age is very clear (despite the desire of some climate scientists to challenge it), and (d) positive CO2 forcing appears to be not correlated with (or negatively correlated with) 75% of the twentieth century's temperature record.<br /><br />Personally, I'm much less interested in any "scientific consensus" and much more interested in the data. The data is pretty danged interesting, and makes the science look anything but settled.<br /><br />Now perhaps I'm wrong, but am interested in a response a bit more specific to my arguments than, say, Harriet's.Borepatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05029434172945099693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-90928561855951976472010-01-13T11:48:47.412-08:002010-01-13T11:48:47.412-08:00The debate is over because the scientists presente...The debate is over because the scientists presented irrefutable facts & charts to prove their point and the non-scientists presented the compelling argument of "nuh uh!"<br /><br />It really wasn't that big of a debate and it should be over by now. The "nuh uh" side of the room should go away and let the grown-ups talk now.Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05869754164017404642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-91314829517343060512010-01-13T01:00:16.709-08:002010-01-13T01:00:16.709-08:00The science has been debated by greater minds than...The science has been debated by greater minds than yours therefore the debate is over?<br /><br />Science doesn't work that way, the debate is never over. If you are deferring to 'greater minds' you are either practicing religion or the logical fallacy of argument from authority. You pick, makes no difference to me.wchfilmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00167775892408561426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-32400419099037282662010-01-12T10:47:38.133-08:002010-01-12T10:47:38.133-08:00Quote: "We cannot continue to allow the greed...Quote: "We cannot continue to allow the greedy, ignorant, and/or incompetent to exploit & squander the Earth's resources, which are the legacy of all life on Earth."<br /><br />How do we stop them? They are the ones in charge or they have purchased the ones in charge. Corruption in government appears to be complete and global. It is painful to be aware of what is going on and realize that there really isn't anything we can do except change our lightbulbs, walk more often and hope for the best.<br /><br />P.S. I do not like your comment box. It does not seem to allow for editing at all.Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05869754164017404642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-76216394946042671632010-01-10T10:29:52.535-08:002010-01-10T10:29:52.535-08:00Science Test: Check Ice Core Samples for natural T...Science Test: Check Ice Core Samples for natural Temperature variability. Back Then = "Especially astonishing are the very short times needed for major warmings. A temperature increase of 5°C can occur in a few decades." -Greenland Core Project, Final Report <br />Now = ??CMasterson.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09275767566032740807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-65031951756090209922010-01-10T09:43:23.358-08:002010-01-10T09:43:23.358-08:00@CMasterson.com:
That argument has already been re...@CMasterson.com:<br />That argument has already been refuted.David Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12849200494760141604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-45639685715802548542010-01-10T09:37:06.051-08:002010-01-10T09:37:06.051-08:00Science Test: Measure the level of liquid in your ...Science Test: Measure the level of liquid in your iced tea before and after the ice melts. Both the same.CMasterson.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09275767566032740807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-47622675721893378242010-01-09T18:06:20.393-08:002010-01-09T18:06:20.393-08:00> The science has been debated by greater minds...> The science has been debated by greater minds than mine and the debate is over.<br /><br />Just because you don't wish to take part in it doesn't mean it's over; it just means you've decided to stop thinking about it.Mambo Bananapatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16704220974313857867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-81368171247446581212010-01-08T15:53:21.842-08:002010-01-08T15:53:21.842-08:00@darrell:
The science has been debated by greater...@darrell:<br /><br />The science has been debated by greater minds than mine and the debate is over. However, I don't see any reason to fall into ad homonym attacks, though I noticed that those on the conservative end of this argument often do so.David Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12849200494760141604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-30784781544894510782010-01-08T11:24:32.593-08:002010-01-08T11:24:32.593-08:00"I will not debate the science." -- Davi..."I will not debate the science." -- David Scott<br /><br />"If you cannot answer a man's argument, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names." -- Elbert HubbardMambo Bananapatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16704220974313857867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-74573082695272021852010-01-06T10:27:42.322-08:002010-01-06T10:27:42.322-08:00Hey, did you know that the continents today were o...Hey, did you know that the continents today were once one giant land mass? Did you know that there were once these things called dinosaurs, and that there was a massive Ice Age at one time with wooly mammoths running around? Man, all those automobiles really messed the environment up to cause the world to change that drastically! Oh.. wait..<br /><br />Did you know that almost all of the planets in this solar system have been steadily warming? Curse those Martian automobiles! Oh .. wait..<br /><br />Y'see, there have been massive natural changes to this planet that were not caused by man, but by nature. The entire history of human existence has not seen any major changes like those and *IF* there is a trend coming for a major change like the aforementioned ones, what makes you think it isn't nature's causes?<br /><br />And here's the strange conundrum. Environmentalists want to stop this 'global warming', but if it is in fact nature's doing, aren't you actually fighting that which you want to protect? What if these 'measures' actually cause more harm by preventing the natural cycle? Or is it that you are simple-minded buying into a hoax that we can keep the planet the exact same always? Isn't that defying nature and preventing growth?<br /><br />And seriously how does me getting taxed higher and giving money to other countries going to prevent 'global warming'? Are we going to bribe the atosphere?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-69853892486990733932010-01-05T09:49:57.794-08:002010-01-05T09:49:57.794-08:00Can I get back the 10 minutes of my life I just sp...Can I get back the 10 minutes of my life I just spent reading this idiot's blog? It's freezing!! Can someone stoke up the old coal power plants and give us some Co2 so we can warm it up a bit?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09553023826411921112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-86970869951519561092009-12-27T12:45:41.714-08:002009-12-27T12:45:41.714-08:00This is possibly the most juvenile and naive AGW m...This is possibly the most juvenile and naive AGW movement blog I've seen yet. <br /><br />The nitwit links and referals are simply comical. <br /><br />Host, <br />You'll be joining the rather large group to be thoroughly disgraced.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-39901071092381663702009-12-27T10:03:34.917-08:002009-12-27T10:03:34.917-08:00To My Dear Anonymous Poster:
I am not a huge suppo...To My Dear Anonymous Poster:<br />I am not a huge supporter of President Obama, although I admit he was a better choice than any republican candidate. Please see my post regarding Democrats and Republicans: http://pltcldscsn.blogspot.com/2009/09/democrats-v-republicans.htmlDavid Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12849200494760141604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-80538668900325710512009-12-27T09:51:31.290-08:002009-12-27T09:51:31.290-08:00Human beings have over the eons faced harsh weathe...Human beings have over the eons faced harsh weather, catastrophe, warming, and cooling. We have survived by adapting. Should my real estate be perpetrated on by rising waters, mud, or any other manifestation of the divine, I will pull up my stakes and head for higher ground. Why tax me into the stone age for natural variations in climate, pray do tell? Oh, in the interest in making everyone 'equal'. Sorry, fools, people are not created equal. Providing for the weak only degrades the gene pool nature has taken eons to refine. Humanity is in decline in this welfare state you so gleefully tout under Dear Leader Obama.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-69453166702144383652009-12-27T08:05:45.628-08:002009-12-27T08:05:45.628-08:00To the Screwball who said, "if the poles do m...To the Screwball who said, "if the poles do melt they will not raise sea levels". (Guess he thinks he knows more than scientists). Ice which is already in water (like the summer sea ice at the poles) will not raise sea levels if they melt. You were correct about that. HOWEVER, ice that is on the land WILL raise sea level if they melt... like Greenland and Antarctica. Thus, you're wrong. The most reputable scientists around the world are right. Sorry, dude.espiritwaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5589609776913193332.post-87662173972279597042009-12-27T07:35:33.529-08:002009-12-27T07:35:33.529-08:00To Anonymous: You say that AGW is a fraud. Is yo...To Anonymous: You say that AGW is a fraud. Is your brain not functioning properly or are you purposely trying to confuse people? AGW is an EVENT, NOT a person! Events can never be frauds, only people can be frauds... like you. Funny how you people cling to little phrases which make no sense whatsoever and attempt to pass them off as truths. You're sick. Also, you said its a global power play. Yeah, right! 3,000 of the most respected scientists from over 100 countries all got together one evening and whispered, "hey, I've got a good idea, let's trick the human race..." You're ridiculous!espiritwaternoreply@blogger.com